不久前Drew Fraser离开Shox加入到了南宁三滑板的Team之中，他在离开时曾经说过去追求自己的梦想，那么究竟是什么对Drew如此吸引，我们带来了@三Skateboarding CEO James Tyson 和刚转到旗下PRO的@Drew祝Fraser 访谈，一起了解一下三滑板。
Interview of SANskateboard and Drew Fraser, for English version please roll down.
三滑板CEO：James Tyson
Q：大家并不知道你，给大家介绍下自己吧，来中国多久了，在中国是不是比想象中困难？
A：我叫James，我的中文名是周宇，我来自英国，在中国已经10年了，这十年我一直住在南宁，也可以算南宁当地人了吧，哈哈。很多人都在抱怨中国怎么样，但是我觉得这里挺好，由于文化和世界观的不同，问题是肯定存在的。不过我已经习惯了，我很喜欢这个国家和这里的人民，这里就是我的家，几年前我回英国甚至觉得那里有些怪怪的。
Q：你为什么会在南宁成立公司？
A：我在南宁住了10年，我的妻子是印度人，他和我的两个孩子一起住在这里，这里还有我的好朋友，所以理所应当，这里会是公司成立选址之处。
Q：你滑板吗？什么时候开始的？
A：当然，我滑了快20年了，我滑板是因为我小时候对滑板的第一眼印象，我记得小时候我第一次看到滑板是我爸爸带我去教堂，老远我就看到十个滑手一路滑下人行道一边ollie，那感觉非常震惊，我感受到了他们的自由。我觉得这也是很多人停下脚步喜欢看我们滑板的原因。那十几个孩子看起来就像个家庭一样，如果人人都可以坦诚相待，那么最终我们都会和互爱。我无法跟别人解释这种感受，但是这种感觉是我第一次看到滑板时就拥有的。
Q:你怎么认识Drew的？他能加入到你的品牌感觉如何？
A：我几年前见到了Drew，然后我们就一直是好朋友，他一直知道我们的公司，最令人欣喜的是他提出给我们公司效力，我们并没有什么可以回报的，只有对他身为滑手的尊重，更值得尊重的是他是一个好丈夫，是个好爸爸。我们就像一个家庭一样，我们之间的联系远远超过了滑板本身。
Q：你是三滑板的老大，三滑板和别的滑板品牌有什么不同？
A：三滑板和别的滑板品牌完全不一样，这是上帝带给我们的品牌，公司的价值观直接来自上帝的启发。三滑板可以用三个简单的词来形容，这三个词也代表了上帝：
第一个词是Blood，血液代表了承诺。我们摔倒会站起来重新再来，一遍一遍不气馁，滑板交给我们承诺的重要性，血迹斑斑的衣服和身上的伤痕便是最好的证明，同时它代表着我们一次次的成功与失败。没有了血液我们便不可以生存。上帝赐予了我们一切，滑板也是上帝赐予我们享受的，一个滑手每天所想的就是承诺，爱，伤痕，血液，牺牲，战斗，上帝向谁承诺？上帝爱谁？当然是我们！上帝为我们能安静的生活不断努力，他来替我们犯下的罪过赎罪，他为我们驱除疾病的痛苦。上帝为我们牺牲了自己的儿子耶稣基督，耶稣基督为了我们犯下的罪过流血受累。我们愿意为滑板流血流泪，上帝愿意为了我们流血流泪，对上帝来说，我们每个人都是脆弱的，不论你是否会KickFlip，着取决于上帝爱我们。
第二个词是Glory，我滑板这么久见证了无数光荣起伏，10年前最好的并不是现在最好的，我曾经是一个Spot的王者，但到了另一个Spot我就是个渣渣，生活在自己的荣耀中只会让自己失望了疲惫。所以为何我们公司要用荣耀来作为第二个价值观词语？荣耀的误导会让你变得处境艰难并且这事及其浪费时间的，但是上帝的荣耀却是我们追逐的。一种怀着对上帝的感谢和荣耀的生活方式会令到我们找到人生的真谛。人生就好比滑板一样神奇，但是它比滑板更广泛。
最后一个词是Freedom，我们都知道滑板可以让我们体会自由的感受，但这仅仅是自由中的一种，在我接触上帝之前我吸毒又酗酒，我担心自己的未来，不知道自己到底要做什么。但是当我踩上滑板后，一切顾虑烟消云散，但是当我回家之后问题又来了。滑板只可以让你暂时感到一种自由，它像我们展示，更深层次的自由是可以追求到的，并且为我们指明了方向。自由并不是临时的东西，它是永恒的。一个刚从监狱的人出来之后再也不用回到那里，他就是自由的。
酒精和毒品只会让你嗨飞起之后再次面对同样的问题。所有的娱乐方法都只会临时解决这些，如果想要真正的自由，那就要相信耶稣基督。我记得我第一次感受到真正自由的时候是一次我摔倒了膝盖，感觉自己一团糟，有罪，我向上帝忏悔，希望上帝可以宽恕我。我希望耶稣基督可以帮助我，没错，他真的这么做了，我的生活以前一团糟，但是上帝让我翻开新的一章。
Q：三滑板有什么明确的目标吗？
A：三滑板跟普通滑板公司不一样，我们了解上帝的存在，我们是上帝的子民，所以我们已经成功了。我们会见证滑板的惊人之处，会成为世界滑板文化的一份子，目前我们已经拥有一支国际化的队伍，我们有来自中国，夏威夷，加拿大，美国和英国的滑手，我们要见证三滑板的队伍不断成长，当然加入这个队伍你也不需要相信耶稣基督，只要我们喜欢你。我周游世界看到了很多流血伤害发生，我们需要关心自己的兄弟姐妹。
Q：最后有什么想说的吗？
A：耶稣基督向我们展示了真诚和生活，他就在那里，永远爱着你。首先感谢上帝，接着感谢妻子孩子对我的支持和鼓励，感谢三滑板的所有成员，感谢KickerClub可以让所有人有机会学习到永不放弃，用不自暴自弃！
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DREW FRASER
Q：你来自哪里？
A：我来自加拿大Ontario名叫Brantford的地方，这里也是电话发明人贝尔的家乡。
Q：你为什么会到中国来？
A：我一直对中国很感兴趣，我觉得这是上帝在我心中埋下的种子。我高中时选了中文课，但是因为只有两个人选这门课，学校把它给取消了。后来我一个住在昆明的朋友想开个室内滑板场找我帮忙，于是我便搬了过去，顺便学习中文，之后经营Ardent滑板场两年。
Q：你为什么先去昆明，然后去了南宁？
A：这很简单，来昆明是因为Ardent，去南宁是因为三滑板。我在中国的六年中去了很多城市，不过我还是很喜欢那些小一些的城市。大城市的Skate Spot和人群气氛很好，但是时间久了我便更想小城市圈子的感觉。小城市的人似乎更友好，生活更舒适，昆明和南宁可以让你感受到大城市的存在感，也可以感受到小城市的轻松。
Q：昆明和南宁滑板氛围有什么不同？
A：昆明和南宁的滑板气氛都很好，我发现只要有专业滑板店和市中心一个让滑手聚集的地方，滑板气氛都会好起来。很多地方的滑手分散开来自己玩自己的，但是这里我们聚在一起，不论是店里还是滑板场还是公园，这种家的感觉就会不断增强。这时滑手所做的就不仅仅是为自己着想，而是帮助整个滑板圈子，教新人滑板，自己DIY道具，拍片等等。
Q：滑板对你来说意味着什么，它是怎样改变你的生活的？
A：我爱滑板的一切，那种自由感受，风格，不断推向自己极限的激情，还有滑手的气氛。我最喜欢的一点就是滑板是不可以做到完美的，滑板在不断发展，不论你多牛逼，总有不会的动作，你的脑子里会不断有新动作组合出来，你会不断努力最后成功拿下，这点永远不会改变。
这些年来最大的改变就是，我所想的从滑板对我有什么帮助变成了我能为滑板做些什么。作为老一辈滑手，我有责任去为下一代滑手创造更好的环境，坐在那里抱怨来抱怨去并不能改变什么，如果你已经属于老一辈了，那么就要用行动去改变现状。
Q：三滑板最好的地方在于什么，你在三滑板担任什么角色？
A：三滑板最棒的地方就是没有另一个品牌跟他一样了！三滑板不仅仅是一个做滑板的公司，它代表的内容更多，三滑板是一种生活方式，是我们和造物主之间联系的桥梁，我们选择从更大的角度来审视滑板。
我现在担任公司不少职务，只要需要我的我都会做，不过我的官方头衔是“Team Manager”
Q：三滑板队伍怎样？
A：三滑板队伍是一支融合中国滑手和外国滑手的队伍，我们都爱滑板爱上帝。目前我是唯一一名PRO但是我们会有越来越多的AM和Flow加入，很多人刚开始就和我们一起滑板，其实我是最新加入进来的，不过大家都很欢迎我。
我们现在有一名15岁的滑手李旺泽，我很看好他，他各种Slappy，Wallie，Wallride做得游刃有余，他对滑板的眼光很有创意，和他滑板总有新点子诞生。他在我的欢迎视频中Blunt下了一个Hubba。
我的目标就是让更多AM和Flow加入三滑板的大家庭，然后培养出下一代的PRO滑手。同时我想和这些人像家庭一样发展。我很喜欢队伍里的滑手，也期待新人的加入，如果你想加入三滑板，在微博发布自己的片段并且@三Skateboarding 和@Drew祝Fraser ，我们一定会看的。
Q：你对未来有什么打算，马上要做什么？
A：我想在中国继续多待几年，继续滑板探索新地形，回馈整个滑板圈。
我们正在拍摄一部名为“Blood, Glory, Freedom” 的片子，将于2016年发布，用来展示我们的Team，我希望可以在这里做些新招，比以前的片段更有创意更好。
Q：最后有什么想说的嘛？
A：感谢KickerClub的采访，感谢所有支持关注我，看我的视频买我的滑板的滑手，继续关注三滑板期待"BLOOD, GLORY, FREEDOM!"
微博 - @三Skateboarding
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SAN Skateboarding CEO: JAMES TYSON
Q1. No one knows you, who are you? Where are you from? How long have you been in China for? Is it hard being here?
A : My name is James my chinese name is zhou yu (zhou yi de zhou, yuzhou de yu), im from England and i ve been in China for 10 years. Ive lived in Nanning for all of that time so im now nanning ben di ren haha. There are plenty of people who find it hard living in China and complain but me personally i love it here. There are bound to be challenges with culture and different worldviews but i ve been here a while and am used to it. I love Chinese people and i love China. My home is here. When i go back to England for visits every few years i actuallly feel a bit wierd there-reverse culture shock haha.
Q2: Why start a company in Nanning?
A: well, i have lived in Nanning for ten years my wife who is Indian lives here along with my two kids lots of my good friends are here so it makes sense to base the skate company here.
Q3.Do you skate? If so why did you start?
A: Yeah i skate! I've been skating for 20 years. I skate because of the first time i ever saw skating... i remember i was a little kid walking with my dad to church and i saw way in the distance a group of about 10 skaters all cruising down the road and then they all popped a little ollie onto the sidewalk. A really amazing feeling came over me when i saw that because when i saw them skating i felt some of their freedom. I think thats why so many people stop to watch us skate-they can feel freedom in it. That group of 10 skaters also looked really tight, like brothers-like a true family and i know that if we, as people, are honest with ourselves we are all looking for that- we are looking to belong and to be known and ultimately to be loved. As a kid watching those skaters i couldnt have explained this to you but all of these things were communicated to me when i saw skatieboarding for te first time.
Q4. How did you meet Drew and are you stoked he is riding with you guys now?
A: I met Drew a few years ago now and we have been friends ever since. He has known about our company for a while now but we were so stoked when he asked us about riding for our company. We alll have nothing but respect for him as a skater but more than that he is a great husband to his wife and a great dad to his kids. Truly we are family , we are brothrs and our connection goes way beyond just skateboarding.
Q5. You are the boss of SAN, Is SAN just another skate company? Why should people pay attention to San?
A: San is definitely NOT just another skate company. The company is a creative overflow of our relationshipo with shangdi (God) and the comapny values come straight from God too. SAN can be summed up with three simple words, these three words represent what God is all about and what we are all about too:
The first word is BLOOD: Blood represents commitment. When we fall trying to land a trick we bleed and then we get up and do it again. Skateboarding can teach us about commitment, and the blood on our clothes and bodies reminds us of that, our scars remind us of our sacrifice and the battles lost and won. Blood also represents life-without blood we die. Every good gift is from God, skateboarding is from God for us to enjoy but it also shows us Him...Think about the things we see as skaters in our everyday lives: Commitment,love, blood, scars, sacrifice adn battles won. Who is God committted too? Who does he love? Us! Has God ever battled and fought for anything? Yes, He has fought for a way for us to know Him. He has fought for us to have rest and peace, He came and fought to forgive all of the bad stuff we do, He has fought and made the way for our sickness to be healed and our torment to leave. Has God ever sacrifices anything? Yes, He sacrificed His own Son, Jesus Christ, for us. Has God ever bled? Yes , Jesus poured out His blood dying the death we deserved, dying in our place. Does God have scars? Yes! When they beat His body and nailed Him to the cross and stuck a spear in His side they left scars but when He rose again three days later having won the battle over our sin and death He made the way for anyone no mattter how bad we are to have new life and walk with Him in His victry. You see we are all willing to bleed and commit for skateboarding but God is willing to bleed and commit for us. Can you see how valuable each one of us is to God? and it doesnt depend on the fact that we can kickflip or not it depends on the fact that He loves us.
the second word is GLORY: I've been skating long enough to know that GLORY comes and goes. Those who were the best 10 years ago are not the best now. I've been the best skater at a spot and the worst at a spot too. I've leart that trying to live for my own glory just leaves me tired and dissappointed. So why is glory a value at our company? Glory mis-directed is dangerous and a waste of time but glory given to God is what we were made for. A lifestyle of glorifying and giving thanks to God for all he has done and continues to do for us will lead us all into our true destiny. Our destiny has amazing things in it like skateboarding but it is bigger than just skateboarding alone its more about bringing Gods kingdom to earth through skateboarding and its about knowing our Creator.
FREEDOM is the last word: We all know skateboarding ahs so much freedom and movement in it. But its only a kind of freedom. I remember before knew God deeply i had all kids of problems from doing drugs and drinking too much to being worried about my future and not knowing what i was meant to do etc but when i stepped on my board and pushed off all those problems would dissappear BUt the wierd thing was that whenever i stopped skating that night all those problems would come right back to me-i could never escape them. So you see skateboarding is a temporary form of freedom and exists to show us that a greater freedom is also availiable to us-its like an arrow pointing us in the right direction. Freedom by definition is not a temporary thing but is a permanent state. If someone is released from orison they dont havce to go back there to eat dinner every night-they are always free. Its the same with drinking and drugs -no matter how high you get you will come down and face the same problems you started with. All entertainment will only ever be temporary and we will always be dissappointed if we try and make these things our freeedom. The only way to true freedom is throught Jesus Christ. I remember the day i found this true freedom, i got down on my knees and admitted to od that i had made a mess of my life that i was a sinner and i said sorry to Him and asked Him to forgive me. I asked Jesus to be my Lord and Saviour and to come into my heart...and He did. My life used to be a wreck but now God has made me brand new-its only by His blood that i've been forgiven and set free from all the mess. BLOOD GLORY FREEDOM !!!
Q6: Where is San headed, does San have a destination?
A: SAN can never be a failure because our identity as a company and as individuals in the company is not wrapped up in money, fame, fashion and trends. Our identity is in knowing God and that we are His people. So we are already successful. We are headed to see and be a part of some amazing skating, we are headed to be a part of wordwide skateboard culture- we already have an internatinal team with skaters from China, hawaii,canada,america england. we are definitely going to see the SAN family grow because we are not an exclusive family, you dont have to believe in Jesus to roll with us -we love you and know that you are infinitely valuable no matter where you are at in your walk. Ive seen enough hurt and been to enough countries in the world to realize that we need to start caring about one another and that we are One-blood.
ANY LAST WORDS:
Jesus us the Way the Truth and the LIfe get to know Him He is right there with you and loves you!!!! thanks to God first of all and thanks to my beautiful and amazing wife for all the support and encouragement and thanks to my beautiful kids, thanks to the San crew all over the world you know who you are! and thanks to you guys at kicker club and everyone reading never quit , never give up breakthrough is around the corner!
DREW FRASER
Q1: Where are you from?
A: I come from a small town called Brantford, in Ontario Canada. Brantford is also the hometown of Alexander Grand Bell the inventor of the telephone.
Q2: Why did you move to China?
A: I’ve always been interested in China, I think it’s a desire that God put in my heart. I actually signed up for a Chinese class in high school but only two people registered so they cancelled the class. Later a friend of mine was living in Kunming and wanted to open an indoor Skatepark so he contacted me for help. I ended up moving there, studying Chinese and later building Ardent Skatepark and managing it for two years.
Q3: Why did you chose Kunming and then Nanning?
A: The simple answer is Kunming because of Ardent and Nanning because of SAN Skateboards. In my six years in China, I have traveled a lot and visited lots of cities but I seem to gravitate towards the smaller cities. It’s nice to visit the big city and skate the spots and feel the energy, but after a short time I begin to miss the community feel of smaller cities. I find people to be more friendly and life to be more comfortable in these type of places. Both Kunming and Nanning are big enough that you don’t feel like you’re in the middle of nowhere but small enough that people are not so overcome with the stress of life that they can stop and have a conversation.
Q4: What’s the difference between Kunming and the Nanning skate community?
A: Surprisingly both Kunming and Nanning have healthy, strong skate communities. I’ve found that any city that has a consistent skate shop and a central meeting place for skaters will grow and thrive. Skateboarders in many cities are spread out all over the city doing their own thing, but it’s when we can come together and share a space; whether a shop, a skatepark or a public park, that a sense of family develops among the skaters. That’s when skaters begin to do things not just for themselves but to help the community grow; teaching the younger kids, building obstacles to skate on, filming videos...
Q5: What does skating mean to you? Has that changed over the course of your life?
A: I love everything about skateboarding, the freedom it brings, the style, the adrenalin high you experience when pushing yourself to new limits, the sense of community among skaters, but one thing that keeps me hooked on skateboarding is that it can’t be mastered. Skateboarding is always evolving. It doesn’t matter how good you are, there’s always new tricks to learn. It’s the challenge of envisioning tricks in your head, battling with them and problem solving until you can make your body and board work together to achieve it. That never gets old.
The main thing that has changed over the years is I’m not thinking as much about how skateboarding can help me, but about how I can help skateboarding. As an older skater in the scene I believe I have a responsibility to do things to grow the skate community and make skateboarding better for the younger kids. Sitting around complaining about what sucks about skateboarding doesn’t change anything, if you’re an adult and you skate you have the ability to change things.
Q6: What’s so good about SAN Skateboards? What’s your role in SAN?
A: What’s cool about SAN is that there’s nothing else like it! SAN is not just another company making skateboards, it represents much more than that. SAN is a way of life, it’s a movement, it’s an overflow of our relationship with the creator of the Universe. We choose to do things differently and stand for something bigger than skateboarding.
I currently fill a lot of roles in the company. I am doing whatever is needed to help out but my official role is “Team Manager.”
Q7: What does the SAN team look like?
A: The SAN team is a unique blend of Chinese and foreign skaters all with distinct styles, but sharing a love for skateboarding and for God. Currently I am the only pro rider but we have a great lineup of up-and-coming AMs and a few FLOW riders representing us. Most of the guys have been with the company from the beginning, I’m actually the newest addition to the team but everyone has been very welcoming.
We currently have a 15 year old rider 李旺泽 who I’m especially hyped on. He is a master of all sorts of slappies, wallies, and wall ride variations. His outlook on skateboarding is super creative and unique, it’s refreshing to skate with him. He does the blunt slide down the hubba in my welcome part.
My goal is to take AM and FLOW riders into the SAN family and to help develop them into the next generation of PRO skaters. At the same time I want to develop a real brotherhood among the guys, not just a team but a family. I’m hyped on all the guys that we have on the team and I would love to see the SAN team expand and grow. If you are interested in joining the family tag @三Skateboarding and @Drew祝Fraser in your skate videos and we will be sure to check it out.
-What does the future look like for you? What's next for Drew?
I plan on spending many more years in China, pushing myself to do new things on my skateboard and exploring new terrain while doing whatever I can to give back to the skate community and help skaters.
We are currently working on a full-length skate video “Blood, Glory, Freedom” (coming in 2016) to showcase our team. I hope I can throw some new tricks in there outdo all of my old videos by taking things bigger, and being more creative.
ANY LAST WORDS:
THANK YOU KickerClub for this opportunity and Thanks to all the skaters out there that have supported me by following on social media, watching my videos and buying my boards. Keep following SAN for regular awesome skate content. "BLOOD, GLORY, FREEDOM!"
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